1989 vitara front wheel noise if turned + 4wl

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Ok, as mentioned in the object today I am investigating on this problem. If I insert the four wheel drive in low speed and I make a turn left or right of the wheel during small motor torque there is a strong CLANG coming from the front left wheel.
Possible cause is the missmatching of the manual lock of the wheel , the ball joint on the transmission or the differential . I made a test whith the front wheels in free position and the 4wL and no noise was produced. Than passing the wheel one by one in lock position and no noise produced, than insering all wheels in lock position and stright drive and still no noise was produced. I dismounted with some efforth the left hub to verify tooth on shaft and movement and everithing was perfect apart the allen key bolt completely rounded that I had to make a new cut to be able to unscrew with a normal screwdriver. Some cone washer are missing too in two position of the 6 of the hub. From this investigation I could exclude the differential as the noise cames out during  turning only and the KLANGS are usually 5-6 times each wheel turn. Tomorrow I'll dismount the shaft and will investigate more precisely the ball joint. Here is my basement workspace with the rare 89 vitara.. HAVE FUN

[fixkick]

your first 4wd part time car, or jeep.?
this car is NOT FULL TIME 4WD its PART time.
must be on ice /snow or offroad or you will wreck the transfer case chain
Do not drive in 4wd high or omg low,  on dry pavement or just water wet pavement, or damage will happen, and wreck car, if doing it driven fast.
that noise you hear is damage you are going.
btw when I say IN 4wd , that means the front locker are locked,  if not THAT I NOT 4WD at all.
https://fixkick.com/part-time-test.html#Suzuki_PT


this is covered in the operators guide, too, how to use PT 4wd ,.

[fixkick]

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read page. 83 (ch6- pg8 ) short warnings, are poor there but... is very real.

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Thanks for the sugestions and I know the issue of the partime 4w-drive.
I made this test with a friend help: Lifted up both front wheels free to turn. Than placed the shift in idle and the manual hub in lock position. Turned the steering all oneside than while my friend was applying a friction by a wood plate to the right wheel  I was turning the left by hand. Doing this I was able to reproduce the CLANG and identified the source. It is coming from the ball joint wheel side. So I decided to dismount the wheel shaft and open the rubber hood. TADHAAAAAA! after some grease wipeout we could see the damage signes. (see pics) Turning by hand the join in dramatic angle we could find position the joint was completely blocked.
Orderd in UK on ebay remounted the wheel and protected the hub with tape.
This problem too seems to be solved but will update you with the final tes as the sparepart arrive.
I suspect someone was moving too large the steering angle limith stop bolt  thus forcing the transmission or probably using the 4wdrive inproperly
Have fun

[fixkick]

Thanks for the sugestions and I know the issue of the partime 4w-drive.
I made this test with a friend help: Lifted up both front wheels free to turn. Than placed the shift in idle and the manual hub in lock position. Turned the steering all oneside than while my friend was applying a friction by a wood plate to the right wheel  I was turning the left by hand. Doing this I was able to reproduce the CLANG and identified the source. It is coming from the ball joint wheel side. So I decided to dismount the wheel shaft and open the rubber hood. TADHAAAAAA! after some grease wipeout we could see the damage signes. (see pics) Turning by hand the join in dramatic angle we could find position the joint was completely blocked.
Orderd in UK on ebay remounted the wheel and protected the hub with tape.
This problem too seems to be solved but will update you with the final tes as the sparepart arrive.
I suspect someone was moving too large the steering angle limith  stop bolt  thus forcing the transmission or probably using the 4wdrive inproperly
Have fun


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this is all very very common, bad CV joint jack shafts left and right,  just buy the full kit and replace that. all that.

volume 1 4c chapter covers this, , i guess rockauto.com sells the kits

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thanks for the doc. Saved in my Vitara folder. During investigation I discovered the right wheel has a bearing slack to be recoveredtightening the bearing bolt. Will do it after the sparepart refit.

[fixkick]

thanks for the doc. Saved in my Vitara folder. During investigation I discovered the right wheel has a bearing slack to be recovered tightening the bearing bolt. Will do it after the spare part refit.

the front hub bearing are set to huge preload,  never set loose. 
the preload is for this Crush type bearing

 123-180ft/lbs at the huge spindle nut.



cheers !

[HAPPYNEWVITARA]

thanks for the doc. Saved in my Vitara folder. During investigation I discovered the right wheel has a bearing slack to be recovered tightening the bearing bolt. Will do it after the spare part refit.

the front hub bearing are set to huge preload,  never set loose. 
the preload is for this Crush type bearing

 123-180ft/lbs at the huge spindle nut.



cheers !

Ok , thanks. Have to build the specialtool to give the proper torque

[HAPPYNEWVITARA]

thanks for the doc. Saved in my Vitara folder. During investigation I discovered the right wheel has a bearing slack to be recovered tightening the bearing bolt. Will do it after the spare part refit.

the front hub bearing are set to huge preload,  never set loose. 
the preload is for this Crush type bearing

 123-180ft/lbs at the huge spindle nut.



cheers !

Ok , thanks. Have to build the specialtool to give the proper torque
https://ibb.co/R79tFxj

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OK PROBLEM SOLVED. 
Today arrived the complete front left trasmission shaft from uk.  I changed , cleaned the  hub and placed new grease on the manual lock gear, tha made a test on rain wet pavement. Everithing correct, no more CLANG  from the wheel. 
Thanks for the support and suggestions
Have Fun