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Fixing the Shifting Issues
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the axle test.
i cant see the tires, in the video,.,,,
are the off the ground? ,
lets start from the rear forward , 1 step at time,

since i cant see wide angle.
i need to see what that axle front pinion does, with tires on the ground...
this allows seeing total free play (slop).. 1/4" IS GOOD, 2inch like seen in the video is bad, but we cant see the tires.
put the tires on the ground or chock them up so they can not move, at all, then turn the pinon, CCW and CW, to see total slop.

my guess is the 10degree slop in 4th gear, is old clutch hub where, this is 90% chance, seen many with that, so ignore it if the clutch still works
but he clutch is new... but when you replaced it did you check the front spline damage>?
and with transmission out, put tranny in 4th(at least) and check for front or rear play, ? by hands on feel>?
I can not explain the 4th gear slop. the dogs lock 100% almost no play in them, unless like 300k miles on it.????

rear axle....
i will tell you , to check for play , you need to have one end locked up.
the axle has 3 ends.
lock 2, of them up, and twist the other.
lock the tires, to the ground
if drive shaft is back , in place , is it?
put the tranny in neutral and twist.

i looked again.
the first tire wiggle test is ok. they all do that. the axle ratio is 5.12 to 1: so at the tire, there is 5:1 reduction in 4th gear.(1:1 IT IS) so you are seeing all play , from tire to clutch plate. in 4th. there will be lots of play. doing that.
at video # one,many posts back , was done in gear, making the test no good.
by no good, you need to check he axle pinion with tires on ground, and tranny in neutral.


then the above, axle test is tires up, and it fooled me, i see it has 1/4" play and you then force it way hard moving wheels. you did , didnt you?
so i think the axle is ok. now , I had to watch the video many times to see what was going on,, you were wheels up. (no problem, ok.?)
why not post full car status, at each video so the viewer dont need to guess?


reboot, DO OVER< day one, NOISE ONE.
so the complaint is drive line noise.
mine made noise. (few months back)_
BUT only moving, (a story)
so K cant find it at all, turning by hand, (normal play , happens to be normal, and when it bottoms out, all cars make noise. this is normal). as the FSM page even says, "all axles and drive line parts make noise.:"

but excessive noise, that is the topic.

i could not drive and have my "trunk monkey: hang on the frame to find this with is cheap doctors $5 stethoscope, my monkey is way too smart, (and can go on strike, LOL)
so out comes the electronic stethoscope seen here.
on my noise page.
now my monkey drives and i sit side kick, passenger, and listen to the head phones to the microphone, clamp at the trans tail casing.
its purrs like kitting, it's good (so very happy wife dont need a $2000 slush box)


i move it (mr MIKE) to the axle pig , front end. (pumpkin pinion bearing bosses) (i use huge hose clamps and a 90deg. metal brace to clip my MICK Clip there.

i drive it, plurrs, but something is not right , sounds like far off train coming down on me. (all bearings purr, listen to all bearings on car, and they purr) try the alternator as 1 example. lean buy doing this)
I move the mike mto left rear, behind the brake backing plate, same. purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
i move to the right rear side brake backing plate area, OMG, the bearing is screaming.
4 trips around the block 1/2hrs work and the OFFENDER IS FOUND.
on another car, all tests passed, leaving this,,,,,,,,but found a bad u-joint, it was just starting to go bad, but i could not make it move funny by hand yet. early failures.

end story
http://www.fixkick.com/NOISE.html

i steelman is cheap $35?

i have this tool. it works like magic. (uses wires but they can be tied down)

http://www.amazon.com/Steelman-97220-Eng...+%23+97220

you said long ago the tranny is the noise source.
my guess is , it is.
for sure only you can tell that.
but if that is true?
then :
1: trans bad.
2 bearing in it bad. (allowing the main shaft to walk up and down or side to side)
3: the 4th gear (has least play ,near zero) is bad, the dogs are GONE. worn bad.
4: the clutch pilot shaft has very worn splines. clutch is new, so only you saw them...

one more trick , haven't done this since a kid
console off
shifter boot off.
stethoscope stabbing the top of transmission driving, (other person driving)

very easy to do , the hole is huge there.
http://www.fixkick.com
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Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-11-2014, 12:58 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-11-2014, 01:09 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-11-2014, 01:27 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-11-2014, 10:33 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by gorkyb - 08-11-2014, 10:55 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-12-2014, 12:59 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-12-2014, 01:01 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-12-2014, 02:14 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-12-2014, 02:18 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-12-2014, 03:31 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-12-2014, 04:26 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-12-2014, 08:56 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-12-2014, 10:46 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-12-2014, 11:18 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-13-2014, 05:27 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-13-2014, 06:51 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-13-2014, 01:22 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-13-2014, 10:18 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-18-2014, 12:18 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-18-2014, 07:57 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-19-2014, 08:11 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-20-2014, 12:24 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-20-2014, 07:38 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-20-2014, 11:05 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-21-2014, 04:00 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-21-2014, 04:05 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-22-2014, 12:32 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-22-2014, 05:41 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-22-2014, 06:19 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-22-2014, 06:37 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-25-2014, 11:52 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-26-2014, 12:29 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-26-2014, 02:46 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-26-2014, 03:47 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-26-2014, 09:59 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-26-2014, 11:48 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-27-2014, 02:35 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-27-2014, 03:23 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-27-2014, 06:21 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-27-2014, 10:04 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-28-2014, 04:04 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-29-2014, 02:48 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-29-2014, 05:09 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-29-2014, 12:49 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-29-2014, 10:34 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-29-2014, 11:43 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-30-2014, 01:20 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-30-2014, 04:41 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-30-2014, 06:30 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-30-2014, 08:36 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-30-2014, 10:37 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-30-2014, 11:45 PM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-31-2014, 12:30 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-31-2014, 01:30 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-31-2014, 05:09 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-31-2014, 06:11 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by Vitalie - 08-31-2014, 10:00 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 08-31-2014, 10:56 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by mayberry97 - 03-23-2015, 04:10 AM
RE: Fixing the Shifting Issues - by fixkick - 03-23-2015, 04:20 AM

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