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off road buggy 2.0 drivetrain swap
#1
Hello newb to the forum though I have been a long time lurker and try to read everything before asking stupid questions. I have looked a about every link I can find and it seems my situation is slightly different than most of what I am finding. I have an off road buggy based off a 89 sidekick (minus body). I understand it is a "narrow" frame and this causes problems fitting the 2.0 but what I don't seem to be finding is where the interference issues are. I am swapping engine and trans/transfer case etc. (2.0 auto trans) This buggy doesn't even have a factory floor pan to be concerned with, but frame rails are intact. We will be fabricating motor and trans mounts as expected but wondering about what other physical issues we will need to be concerned with.  Motor arrives Saturday then we will see where it goes. Any input would be appreciated.
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#2
(02-04-2021, 09:53 PM)re-evaluating Wrote: Hello newb to the forum though I have been a long time lurker and try to read everything before asking stupid questions. I have looked a about every link I can find and it seems my situation is slightly different than most of what I am finding. I have an off road buggy based off a 89 sidekick (minus body). I understand it is a "narrow" frame and this causes problems fitting the 2.0 but what I don't seem to be finding is where the interference issues are. I am swapping engine and trans/transfer case etc. (2.0 auto trans) This buggy doesn't even have a factory floor pan to be concerned with, but frame rails are intact. We will be fabricating motor and trans mounts as expected but wondering about what other physical issues we will need to be concerned with.  Motor arrives Saturday then we will see where it goes. Any input would be appreciated.
Welcome Mr. Lurker !!!
not sure me. in total J20 over G16. but.
but mounts stock are no good.  all must be custom and or adapted.  new rear prop shaft I think.
the only issues I can think of is the 2.0 liter engine pan may hit the front axle center pig casing. if not already jacked up.
the wider frame on the newer cars I think is for also fitting in a V6.  H25 or up.
2.0l swaps are common in the arena and class of car  here, G16s.
also the j18 fits in to any Esteem sedan. so that too has parts that fit front wheel drive, but may have special pan that fits better in other cars. (j18 and 20 share major parts)
I typed this page but is  from what  all other told me.

https://fixkick.com/wild-cards/j20-to-G16.html

most is obvious  but pan issues, IDK, not sure. but is something to check.

one more
TIE ROD CROSS OVER>
G16  here  (from here)

[Image: pan1.jpg]
http://www.fixkick.com
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#3
(02-04-2021, 10:45 PM)Thanks for the reply fixkick! I have read a ton of your stuff including most of what you linked. I am not a mechanic but play in my home shop and I am amazed at the knowledge you have. I have been racing turbo Buicks for nearly 30 years, my v6 makes nearly 1100hp so I know a little about cars and mostly have surrounded myself with great people.  I would love to hang out with you for a few days just to absorb some of what you have forgotten.This is a project I bought to be used in a mentoring situation to help teach boys and young men some mechanical and welding skills. Unfortunately COVID hit and shut that down but want to get it ready if possible. Anyway thank you for the input we will make some progress this weekend.  fixkick Wrote:
(02-04-2021, 09:53 PM)re-evaluating Wrote: Hello newb to the forum though I have been a long time lurker and try to read everything before asking stupid questions. I have looked a about every link I can find and it seems my situation is slightly different than most of what I am finding. I have an off road buggy based off a 89 sidekick (minus body). I understand it is a "narrow" frame and this causes problems fitting the 2.0 but what I don't seem to be finding is where the interference issues are. I am swapping engine and trans/transfer case etc. (2.0 auto trans) This buggy doesn't even have a factory floor pan to be concerned with, but frame rails are intact. We will be fabricating motor and trans mounts as expected but wondering about what other physical issues we will need to be concerned with.  Motor arrives Saturday then we will see where it goes. Any input would be appreciated.
Welcome Mr. Lurker !!!
not sure me. in total J20 over G16. but.
but mounts stock are no good.  all must be custom and or adapted.  new rear prop shaft I think.
the only issues I can think of is the 2.0 liter engine pan may hit the front axle center pig casing. if not already jacked up.
the wider frame on the newer cars I think is for also fitting in a V6.  H25 or up.
2.0l swaps are common in the arena and class of car  here, G16s.
also the j18 fits in to any Esteem sedan. so that too has parts that fit front wheel drive, but may have special pan that fits better in other cars. (j18 and 20 share major parts)
I typed this page but is  from what  all other told me.

https://fixkick.com/wild-cards/j20-to-G16.html

most is obvious  but pan issues, IDK, not sure. but is something to check.

one more
TIE ROD CROSS OVER>
G16  here  (from here)

[Image: pan1.jpg]
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(02-05-2021, 08:08 AM)re-evaluating Wrote:
(02-04-2021, 10:45 PM)Thanks for the reply fixkick! I have read a ton of your stuff including most of what you linked. I am not a mechanic but play in my home shop and I am amazed at the knowledge you have. I have been racing turbo Buicks for nearly 30 years, my v6 makes nearly 1100hp so I know a little about cars and mostly have surrounded myself with great people.  I would love to hang out with you for a few days just to absorb some of what you have forgotten.This is a project I bought to be used in a mentoring situation to help teach boys and young men some mechanical and welding skills. Unfortunately COVID hit and shut that down but want to get it ready if possible. Anyway thank you for the input we will make some progress this weekend.  fixkick Wrote: Wow 1100hp
that takes serious bottom end work and custom ECU, your projects would be fun to see.
thanks for sharing,  you are always welcome here.
cheers Fixkick.
http://www.fixkick.com
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