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no injection ...ECU? 92 tracker 8v TBI
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(03-20-2014, 11:59 AM)armchairlonghair Wrote:
Quote:NO codes, is a bad ECU (DOA)
ECUs that can not tell the ECT is unplugged is a bad ECU.
with 3 ECU with the same symptoms am I risking it buying one. Is it the tracker that is frying them? Can I trust to put a new one in?
great question, if the injector wires are not shorted the ECU;s are not being blown up. in car, (not withstanding, other outputs shorted to12v, like iSC, or any VSV solenoid, ) but just focusing on NOID Flashes, just the 2 wire, on the injector must not be shorted.

Quote:when changing caps be real sure you do no rip the plated through holes out of the PCB, called VIA's if you do , the PCB looses 1/2 its power and goes to backup mode.
what i do is probe every digital chip for 5v (VCC/VDD) pins for 5vdc, if not present the , power line was cut. or etched through with acid, leaks.
which is the 5v pin on these chips? (each one has a datasheet and VCC/VDD is stated there. ( i just check some TTL chips there, and the processor.)
(ill make a list, tomorrow.)


Quote:you are doing everything right. and 19inchs vacuum is normal for idle speed. or 10 cranking (shooting from hip) good test, the MAP is not stopping the NOID
DEAD NOID:?
I used about 12 inch vacuum. good . sign

Quote:i have a transistor tester, so can check the beta easy. but you can use and ohmmeter to see if they are open or shorted, easy. (using diode selection on the dial of DMM) some meters do have Transistor tester socket on top.
I guess after the Cap change. I didn't really want to pull them off the board and heat sink just to test. will wait till I have one flashing codes.
yes, id not fix a driver transistor with no code 12, or ECT not showing DTC code failures, cranking. very savvy that....

Quote:put your efforts in ECU that flash codes good, after fresh caps, just the ruby's go bad, never seen other brands puke acid in suzuki ECU.

i use the noid lamp just in case the car has 2 problems
get the noid working first. i use a low current incandescent lamp. (easy to see it)
Some folks can not see 5 milisecond flashes of a very fast LED, lamp.... so use a real NOID lamp.
the lamp makes the flash seem longer, and works best for all humans....
BTW, i can see LED flashes that fast.
The Noid light tests fine with 12 v applied. I was only able to find L-6 / 8v 35mA lamp. Radio shack is not in Canada anymore.I found an old catalog and cross ref the part # with no joy. You could mention on your pages that these lamps are for doll house displays and may be found at hobby stores, yes,,,,will do
yes, radio dial (old) lamps are weak or use a CEL lamp, it to is s weak lamp. 100ma or less. should work good.
i like to keep it low to see leaking transistors. I key on and the lamp must be out. overheated transistors love to leak, C to E pin.

any weak 12v lamp is a go..


Quote:then using a solder sucker, (spring type not bulb) and heat it,for 3 seconds and suck.
then try to wiggle the cap wire lead with solder iron tip.
repeat , suck, wiggle, at one point it's free. lead floating in hole.
this way protects, the Plated Thru hole from damage, the corner cap has such a feed thru's. it feeds DC power to the other side. and must do so.
rule 2 do not ever drill this PCB.
if you wreck the VIA, feed thru, then run a wire from top to bottom around the side of PCB. it can be fixed, if damaged.
Do not use the heat and yank trick or it will wreck the via's
I have a solder sucker but perhaps could have been more careful.
The VIA repair seems odd does the pin of the cap not do this as it goes all the way through? (yes but now you must top and bottom solder each pin.
and then you must keep cap real high, and yes, have done that.

the solder in the hole same question? How can I attach to the via's to wire around the board?
the pad has trace, we scrape it, then solder tin it, then attach (solder) wire to that , then around to other side and same.
you ask the best questions..!!!!

Most importantly I am only able to locally source 63 v or 35 v caps is this a problem and which would you use if you had a choice?
63v, and many ecu left factory that way, go higher.

Thanks for helping me through this frustration.


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RE: no injection ...ECU? 92 tracker 8v TBI - by fixkick - 03-20-2014, 12:15 PM

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