04-11-2017, 10:48 PM
(04-11-2017, 08:42 PM)loe92 Wrote:(04-02-2017, 11:59 PM)fixkick Wrote: your welcome.
i even have details in the 56bxx ecu, not seen anywhere else
even shows you what chip burned up, outputs,
inputs on this ecu never blow up, fully protected they are(baring direct lightening hits, lol)
but outputs have zero protection.
and will blow up., transistors or other wise.
http://www.fixkick.com/ECU/ECU-8v.html
here is my 56b30 reverse engineering work for outputs,, if you have a bad output the , path to the bad part can be traced,...
http://www.fixkick.com/ECU/transistors.html
Hi man!!!
I have another question, i mounted the 1.6 distributor and with the gearbox (5sp) in "N" position, the car when is hot seems to run perfect when i rev the engine, but driving i can feel still a little hesitation always at low rpm, i can't understand if it is a misfiring or a knock.
LITTLE HESITATIOs: many causes but if engines ok, its just spark or fuel wrong (fuel can be bad TPS, its the whole purpose is to see right foot move fast and go to ENRICH MODE)
Can This can be a timing Ignition Problem? (no timing light? all G13/16, must be time,(static timing" is easy to set. you can not time any engine by sound. only on a dyno
I remember that when i had the 1.3 the Ignition timing didn't affect so much the functioning of the engine, it surely didn't cause hesitation like the one i feel now with this engine, but okay this is of course another planet.
you need to publish you cars custom setup. so everyone knows what Frankenkick means in this case.
I took a photo of a connector that if i didn't misunderstood is used to keep the ignition timing static just to correctly adjust it, can you confirm? See picture attached. (I can not guess what you have at all, all EFI parts )
And I have to say another thing, i bypassed the cold start fast Idle, stopping the way on the TBI (that one with a little cover with three screws that keep it in place. (that makes cold starts wont to flood the engine, and confuses the ECU all to H3LL that trick)
I did the same modification on the 1.3 because i hated have the engine at 1500 RMP when the car was cold, and this never gave me problems, can be a problem on the 1.6 System?
it never gave you a problem, my guess the 1.3 was in limphome or ECU lost, and therefore cant tell this deed. why look backwards. to something long gone
and not work this car. only.
DO you know what limphome is (failsafe) and ECU gets lost? (lost means ECU lost controls of fueling or spark on 56Bxx ECU) on the Sammi ECU,. ive no clues.
Thank you a lot.
the TBI engine runs very poorly (1 injector way up top) when cold. (all do)
the fuel wants to make a puddle of liquid gas there, just below the TBI in the Plenum box.
this makes it run bad , makes huge smog. and wants to stall, and slows the warmup, if idle speed is defeated.
This is why the TBI was first banned in Calif. forcing only G16b sales there. in 1992 or so...
IF 1500 RPM is fearsome, why not just put in Synthetic oil. and let it do as the engineer wanted. Its so bad they put a heater below the TBI on all automatics trans TBI.
The dash pot does same thing, it races the engine for 1 to 3 seconds at cold start. then the IAC in the base of the TBI is open until 150F
then it closes, ALL TBI do that. Hot RPM is 800, by virtue of the ISC electric, idle controller, ECU sets RPM, hard coded, and 1000 for a/c on or P'/s overloaded.
This ECU is not smart at all, doing things to fool it is going to , cause bad effects.
but if you have hesitation.
it can be (not engine )
1: sparktiming wrong on the Sammi ECU its got a vacuum advance that must work. then centrifigal advance kicks in later, if not the engine will lack power.
Distributors can only be tested for power on a dyno.. not parked in driveway, with no engine load.
spark timimg is complex in the 56Bxx ecu its tables for RPM and LOAD. both.
on the sammi ecu its only the distributor, its 2 axis too but is RPM and LOAD, load is Vacuum in this case.
2: next is a working TPS, the device tells the ECU your foot moved real fast. and causes the ECU to engage, ENRICH mode, if this does not happen
all EFI engines made BOG, the catch up, this is called hesitation.
3: it can also be cause by spark wrong, in all cases. that is why the 1st step on a new engine (not inside it) is to time it.
The if running vacuum advance, (are you?) then this makes huge power off the line, you can prove that on any car by cutting vacuum to it and driving.
4: If the injector is half clogged or pressures weak, the ECU can in fact be confused by this, because. ENRICH runs 12.:1 AFR, in the mode. and if
the injectors was not injecting correctly IT WILL BOG, and may catch up but on hills it will bog the full time.
you dont have a $20 timing light?
if driving 40mph and you TIP-IN, (means jab the throttle) does it hesitate then?
the 1.3L EFI is in no why like 1.6L EFI
they old ecu (some) do not do spark at all. huge differences, there.
in fact you can pull the ECU out of car and crank engine and spark happens on early TBI, and spray test fuel and it runs no ECU, (proof)
on yours 56bxx means , the ECU now does all spark, a major change here in 1991.
60A does not.(sparkless , ECU)
the 80C , DOES SPARK WITH ECU
http://fixkick.com/sammi-stuff/late-sammi-efi-94.jpg
in all cases the ECU knows that spark advances and uses fuel tables to match it.
for a perfect burn. (then at cruise the 02 oxy sensor comes on line and fueling goes to 14.7
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the fuel and spark are controlled by TABLES in the ECU, carefully tuned with a DYNO at the factory .
if you lie to the ECU, then it uses the wrong table points. (indexed wrong)
RPM will be ok
but not load
and fuel if wrong rates or spark not happening correctly the ECU will mess up.
and water temps must be right too, at all times.
in the case of the spark-less ECU. it monitors spark only and fuel rates are based off what it saw.
sorry cant be for exact as I do not know what Frankenkick parts are connected. (all I know 1/2 G13 /G16)
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