all G16a and B blocks are same, and same Suzuki Partnumber,,,, the heads and pistons are different (and EFI totally different and harnesses, etc)
that is correct the bell is fixed, on the hyrdamatic, pre 93. so ...
the new trans is electric shifted ONLY and
The Later 4L60-E has a six bolt "hex" rear bolt pattern and a removable bellhousing. , so again you need a TCM, and all the trimmings...
Seems the TCM question keeps not being answered here. to do no not to do it.... on the 700 , takes custom TCM programmed to run 80 hp engine...
so the 2.8L metric S10 in 1992 an fits, some I-4's (83-92) again very old, and most are dead. 1 piece case 700r4s
but what about all the other problems, Clutch TC and spider, and all that. The shifting working right with only 80hp.
700s come in a vast numbers of engine flange configurations.
seen here
http://www.gotallautoparts.com/transmiss...smissions/
here are the patterns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_GM...g_patterns
see this?
called GM metric pattern or S10 early pattern.
and fits these , I4s (note the missing G16s below)
AMC/Chrysler 2.5L I4 found in Jeep Cherokee, Comanche, Wagoneer, CJ and Wrangler and Dodge Dakota
GM Iron Duke/Tech-4 2.5L I4 (2.8L bell phased in . 1982)
GM "122" 1.8/2.0/2.2 L I4 (1982-2003, with the new metric bell.)
here it is,
![[Image: 330px-GM_60deg_V6_bellhousing.JPG]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/GM_60deg_V6_bellhousing.JPG/330px-GM_60deg_V6_bellhousing.JPG)
the G16a looks like this, i guess you've never seen one? (it's not from GM it's from the Suzuki engineers in JAPAN a totally metric engine)
Japan engineers did not work together back in the days of first GM early metric engines (like the 1983 S10 pattern)
the inline 4.
![[Image: 3_10_01_16_11_44_05.jpeg]](http://www.fixkick.com/bbs2/Suzuki-bbs/gallery/3_10_01_16_11_44_05.jpeg)
do they match patterns? does a Suzuki pattern match the S10 metric pattern? I say no.... just look here.
seems to me its a false dream.
no?
if you google for sidekick/trackers 700r4s
you see all of them are engine swaps, not G16.(G16 blown up) (expect your link from.) or G16 is too weak, now kicked to curb..... if you read the forum details.
this is a G16 engine, is metric, and is Suzuki design. starting back in 1988 or more early for the G13s for earlier, cars.
The G series engines are pure Suzuki JAPAN, is not in any way related to GM. (cept the joint deal in CAMI)in 1989.
now your discovered rumor. (only one i can find) and linked by you.
"Expert: kalamykid replied 4 years ago.
You can use a 700r4 out of an s10 with a 2.8. This should? bolt right in and you would not have to change anything but maybe the plug for the lock up converter. the 700r4 does not use the pcm, so no need to rewire or change any of the el4ectricals in the car. YOu may have to move the cross member back about 1 inch to make room for the trans mount, and you will need to have a new drive shaft made as the 700 is longer the the 3l30 in the tracker now, but the yoke should be the same, you just need to have the drive shaft shortened."
note the key word, "should", im guess he thinks , metric, pattern from GM is same as G16s from Japan. why he would think that ,eludes me.
he then avoids the clutch and spider issues.
and 4wd. issues.
or on 2wd the 2wd drive Suzuki setup. all unique to SUZUKI
my guess is he does not know that GM never designed any TRACKER (GEO GM Tracker)
so you have 80-93 S10 transmissions just laying about , all good to go.?? I think not.
sure lots of cores, in the major rebuilders, warehouses.... lots. all DOA.
off my swap page
The G10 has the exact same transmission bell ,bolt pattern as the G13, and the G13 tranny can be bolted to the G16 at the top,
but the bottom bolts don't line up - so you make an adapter or weld & drill -
as you can see the pattern evolved at Suzuki from early G10s to G16s, I'd say GM was not part of the evolution,.
researching bolt patterns is not easy. i see zero. (heck Suzuki never even published the OBD1 protocol, a very closed maker,end rant)
leaving what?
what fits behind the 03-72LE bell, answer a40s, Aisin boxes only. the maker is called AISIN CO.
what fits behind the GM 3L-30 bell, answer. is TM180s only. and maybe their newer boxes.(and longer) 4L30s but is TCM shifted, bad to that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_4L30-E_transmission
to find this out, ask any rebuilder, (mixing TH180 parts with 4L30s) and the results. (box length, tail shaft length and spline sizes)(extreme hacking here)
and this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_GM_transmissions
see how the TCM shifted (electronic) trans are in its own sections?>
that is correct the bell is fixed, on the hyrdamatic, pre 93. so ...
the new trans is electric shifted ONLY and
The Later 4L60-E has a six bolt "hex" rear bolt pattern and a removable bellhousing. , so again you need a TCM, and all the trimmings...
Seems the TCM question keeps not being answered here. to do no not to do it.... on the 700 , takes custom TCM programmed to run 80 hp engine...
so the 2.8L metric S10 in 1992 an fits, some I-4's (83-92) again very old, and most are dead. 1 piece case 700r4s
but what about all the other problems, Clutch TC and spider, and all that. The shifting working right with only 80hp.
700s come in a vast numbers of engine flange configurations.
seen here
http://www.gotallautoparts.com/transmiss...smissions/
here are the patterns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_GM...g_patterns
see this?
called GM metric pattern or S10 early pattern.
and fits these , I4s (note the missing G16s below)
AMC/Chrysler 2.5L I4 found in Jeep Cherokee, Comanche, Wagoneer, CJ and Wrangler and Dodge Dakota
GM Iron Duke/Tech-4 2.5L I4 (2.8L bell phased in . 1982)
GM "122" 1.8/2.0/2.2 L I4 (1982-2003, with the new metric bell.)
here it is,
the G16a looks like this, i guess you've never seen one? (it's not from GM it's from the Suzuki engineers in JAPAN a totally metric engine)
Japan engineers did not work together back in the days of first GM early metric engines (like the 1983 S10 pattern)
the inline 4.
do they match patterns? does a Suzuki pattern match the S10 metric pattern? I say no.... just look here.
seems to me its a false dream.
no?
if you google for sidekick/trackers 700r4s
you see all of them are engine swaps, not G16.(G16 blown up) (expect your link from.) or G16 is too weak, now kicked to curb..... if you read the forum details.
this is a G16 engine, is metric, and is Suzuki design. starting back in 1988 or more early for the G13s for earlier, cars.
The G series engines are pure Suzuki JAPAN, is not in any way related to GM. (cept the joint deal in CAMI)in 1989.
now your discovered rumor. (only one i can find) and linked by you.
"Expert: kalamykid replied 4 years ago.
You can use a 700r4 out of an s10 with a 2.8. This should? bolt right in and you would not have to change anything but maybe the plug for the lock up converter. the 700r4 does not use the pcm, so no need to rewire or change any of the el4ectricals in the car. YOu may have to move the cross member back about 1 inch to make room for the trans mount, and you will need to have a new drive shaft made as the 700 is longer the the 3l30 in the tracker now, but the yoke should be the same, you just need to have the drive shaft shortened."
note the key word, "should", im guess he thinks , metric, pattern from GM is same as G16s from Japan. why he would think that ,eludes me.
he then avoids the clutch and spider issues.
and 4wd. issues.
or on 2wd the 2wd drive Suzuki setup. all unique to SUZUKI
my guess is he does not know that GM never designed any TRACKER (GEO GM Tracker)
so you have 80-93 S10 transmissions just laying about , all good to go.?? I think not.
sure lots of cores, in the major rebuilders, warehouses.... lots. all DOA.
off my swap page
The G10 has the exact same transmission bell ,bolt pattern as the G13, and the G13 tranny can be bolted to the G16 at the top,
but the bottom bolts don't line up - so you make an adapter or weld & drill -
as you can see the pattern evolved at Suzuki from early G10s to G16s, I'd say GM was not part of the evolution,.
researching bolt patterns is not easy. i see zero. (heck Suzuki never even published the OBD1 protocol, a very closed maker,end rant)
leaving what?
what fits behind the 03-72LE bell, answer a40s, Aisin boxes only. the maker is called AISIN CO.
what fits behind the GM 3L-30 bell, answer. is TM180s only. and maybe their newer boxes.(and longer) 4L30s but is TCM shifted, bad to that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_4L30-E_transmission
to find this out, ask any rebuilder, (mixing TH180 parts with 4L30s) and the results. (box length, tail shaft length and spline sizes)(extreme hacking here)
and this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_GM_transmissions
see how the TCM shifted (electronic) trans are in its own sections?>
http://www.fixkick.com