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1991 3spd auto ""HELP!!!"
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(swaps topic is endless. after all , there are no 2 swaps the same,,, endless and complex to the nth degree , )

what you don't have is a working autotrans, finding one, takes trying it and failing, (repeats) huge efforts there , possible, can be endless.....(used parts)
mixing car parts is Greek ! (lots of years, and options, built)

there is no more complex topic on cars at all. (cept maybe a turbo build and custom ECU tuning)
after all it's really Re-engineering you are doing, (first reverse engineering things, in many cases, and lacking the EPC , very hard)

the transmission have load ratings. and must match engine torque, and most shift right. (but you are using OEM original parts) so skip this.
if you have a bigger engine, the low torque rated 3L30 will not like that excess torque nor shift fright. (case in point, adding a torque'y diesel)
OEM swaps:
Ill attempt to document the parts differences. on 1 body and 1 engine. 2dr, 8v.
mounts, harnesses, TCM, side braces ,shift'ers , cables , consoles , and other parts, it's non trivial.

no, the 4speed can be installed 3 ways.
way 1, just bolt it in and run it way1.
if you do that it shifts 3 gears. of the 4 , skipping gear 2. (tcm is missing)
way 2: (tcm still missing)
if if you design a switch box like my test drawing shows. you can in fact shift all gears, manually , after all that is what the TCM does, remotely
this is for testing, to design a shifter , a lady can shift , takes skills. but this is how it shifts. 4 gears. a simple 2 pin binary pattern is used. 0v and 12v.
http://www.fixkick.com/tranny/TCM/test2.jpg

or
way3:
install all 4speed parts and it works like new. auto-shifting. with TCM.
i have no idea what your goals are, like new, or some hack method, (im for all 3 ways , if it moves this old, its a blessing , no?)
that is correct , my swap page warns you on the spline rules.


off my swap page, (splines)
"The transfer case changed in 96 with new out put spline changed. (and for sure prop shafts)
Input is the same. to XFR case. input spline count is 23 ,BTW.
All t-case (transfer case or xfr case) input splines from 89 to at least 98 are the same size and count.
T-case output shaft splines are the same from 89-95 (26 spline) and from 96 to at least 98 they are 16 spline.
The output shaft size is 30mm (1.81"). on all."

changes.
evolution.
the maker of this car does not make transmissions.
so they must use parts off the shelf.
the 3 transmissions are different lengths.
so there are many prop shaft made

The 3speed is GM trans made in France. (used on may cars)
the 4speed is from Aisin maker in Japan,. totally unlike the above, but both have a 4speed adaptor that fits the Aisin transfer case, as an option
to make them fit takes adaptors and new prop shafts (drive shafts)
and mounts.
and the 4speed is electric shifted, so no magic there, if car is 3speed, the new 4speed cant shift automatically. (no tcm, no harness there)

seems what you need is working a/t , that be step 1. finding one that works can shifts and not slip
then get the parts, needed to fit it right.
the EPC shows all parts, and all p./n and what matches.

all 3 tranny bolt and fit the engine, the bell housings, all 3 fit as does the clutch.
that means next the tranny mounts need to fit up.
there are 7 suzuki transmission mounts, for 2door/4door, 3 transmissions, and if 2wd or 4wd. and 8v and 16v engines
but if all 3 cars are 2door, and 4wd
the cross member (trans) is same , but in 1994 , has small change, and new bolts. and new rubber mount type, the mount changed in 1992/3
these parts do not change for trans type. (due to all fit the 4wd gear box same spot)
now props.


but if only 3/4speed swaps its the same, if same body, and engine
there are 3 generation of sidekick. in 10 year run , many federal laws dictate changes, and many other reasons.
89-91
92-95 ( some minor changes 92/93/94)
96-98 (vast federal rules, like OBD2, and crash laws, abs, air bags and more.

the 4 speed has side mounts not used on the 3speed
and last the prop shafts.

i made a pdf for you. C = 2 door (canvas top) V = van 4door (codes by suz)

here is my list 3 to 4 speed. or 5 to a/t
made from the EPC (electronic parts catalog data base)
the 4speed has special side mounts , no 3speed has it. 5sp side mounts useless
cables TV and shift different.
if 3sp to 4sp , you must plug up vacuum modulator line.,
console different. (shift) and Power/normal switch missing and 0D switch.
harnesses different, on all, and in dash for TCM hook up and cluster (od lamp etc) and under car. at trans,
a/t oil lines and a/t cooler will be missing on 5sp car. if m/t/? now need new radiator, or external cooler.
vents on trans. new.
PRNDL switch and harness are different. (left side of box)
tcm missing. 4sp only. (1997+ new PCM needed if 5sp to a/t swap.
prop shafts wrong, and if 96+ splines wrong rear.


below pdf is 92-95 props
in 96 all this changed, if you find 96+ parts, ask. for sure the rear prop yoke will not fit early transfer cases.
i am not covering 2wd here, nor 4 doors.

need adobe pdf reader, have that? if not, load it?
http://jeepdied.com/look/alien-stuff/props-92-95.pdf

i will add 96+_ props later
cheers !

the zuk swap link

as you my not know
some , dont want to run the Vitara, 03-72LE box
and then find some old Volvo A44 box (no DE on end) means not shifted by TCM.
so buy this box, and add the vitara 4wd adaptor to this box
it now shifts, TCM free.
see?
some folks find a non E box. (e= tcm shifted)

my tranny page shows this at the end
quoting my own page
Some guys , took out their A44DE and put in a real hyrdmatic trans from below and trashed the TCM. (minding tail shaft 4wd adaptor...)
DODGE D50 PICKUP 2 4L -- L4 -- 3 0L V6 1987-89 AW372 (A44D)
DODGE D50 PICKUP 3 0L V6 4X4 1987-89 KM148 (A44D)
DODGE RAIDER 1987-89 AW372 (A44D)
DODGE RAIDER PICKUP 2 4L L4 -- 3 0L V6 1987-89 AW372 (A44D)
DODGE RAIDER PICKUP 3 0L V6 4X4 1987-89 KM148 (A44D)
DODGE RAM 50 1987-89 KM148/A44D
GEO TRACKER 1 6L L4 1996-98 03-72LE (A44DE)
ISUZU AMIGO 2.6L L6 1992-95 03-72L (A44DL)
ISUZU IMPULSE 2.0L -- 2.3L L4 1988-89 03-72L (A44DL)
ISUZU IMPULSE 2.0L L4 W/TURBO 1986-87 03-72L (A44DL)
ISUZU PICK-UP 3.1L V6 1988-95 03-72L (A44DL)
MAZDA MIATA 1.8L L4 1998-99 A44DE
MITSUBISHI MONTERO 2.6L L4 -- 3.0L V6 (4X4) 1990-5/94 AW372L (A44DL)
MITSUBISHI MONTERO 2.6L L4 (4X4) 1987-89 KM148 (A44D)
MITSUBISHI PICKUP 2.6L L4 -- 3.0LV6 1987-89 AW375 (A44D)
MITSUBISHI PICKUP 2.6L L4 -- 3.0LV6 (4X4) 1987-89 KM148 (A44D)
MITSUBISHI VAN/WAGON 2.4L L4 1987-90 AW372L (A44DL)
SUZUKI SIDEKICK 4 DOOR 1.6L L4 1992-98 03-72LE (A44DE)
SUZUKI SIDEKICK 4 DOOR SPORT 1.8L L4 1996-98 03-72LE (A44DE)
SUZUKI X90 1.6L L4 1995-98 03-72LE (A44DE)
TOYOTA 4 RUNNER 2.4L L4 1989-91 A44D
TOYOTA VAN 2.0L -- 2.2L L4 1984-86 A44DL
end.

you need to use the suzuki bell housing and suzuki 4wd extension adapter.
Volvo for use in the 960/S90 (no tcm years)
volvo calls it the aw72L (even more rare, in year 2016)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_A_t...sion#A44DL

finding any A44 box,used and good, is kinda hard.
http://www.fixkick.com
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