sorry for the confusions, but this is one of the most complex tops on cars, due TO WORLD USAGE VARIANCES !! countries, Laws, smog laws, and other laws. DOT?
why are you reading USA web pages about, non USA cars, (yes, Google is stupid it don't know a thing about cars)
why not read the cascade page?
What vehicles can be diagnosed?
it says, under what is CASCADE?:
"CASCADE generally supports all vehicles that allow diagnosis via K/L or CAN bus.
The support for specific models depends on the diagnostic software being used.
The Hi-Scan Pro software releases support Hyundai or Kia vehicles sold on the American market from model year 1990 up to about 2007; for Carman Scan I software, the manufacturer provides a vehicle coverage list; it supports virtually all makes and models of vehicles, up to about model year 2010." (at $700 to $3000 USD)!
sold on the American market (yours is NOT)
Canada here went to OBD2 in 1998. but again, your car is not Canadian, not in the least.
here is better page to read off my OBD1 page
OBD2 list
http://www.totalcardiagnostics.com/suppo...d-software
Your car is not USA car, our cars have OBD2 EPA regulations this year, that are not used, in your country.
there web site is very poor (like mine)
but mine says USA cars only. at the top for real good reasons
EFI system very the world over. by laws or in some countries, what is the cheapest EFI to put on the car, EVER SEEN JDM setups. (grossly limited)
you keep reading USA web pages, why are you doing that.....
i know its the www, and most pages are for the country hosting said pages,
then you quote UK, they have there own cars EFI aND LAWS. UNLIKE YOURS. TOTALLY.
THAT BATAUTO POST.
The first expert there complains that why not post your cars location or better the MARKET CODES>
all cars are build to a MARKET, why not say so, and on forums , say so, I know nobody does,. ever.
and all answers go side ways. for that #1 reason.
if you read 1million posts on cars you see the profound ignorance, that the person posting thanks all cars are the same with same silly name on the side of care.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME !
sorry but those are facts.
even the expert there, is ignorant.
"Now I am really confused, I checked my data base for a festiva of this era, it has an OBD2 plugin. Is this your car."
totally fails, that, he's never left the USA like me, ive traveled all over the PAC RIM. (navy then later at Phillips semi for for our plants)
I pay attention this this. (have the factory books too)
some cars are OBD2 (1/2) with ODD connector that adapts it to fit USA OBD2 scan tools (OBD2 is a usa invention and is our laws, other have copied it or extended it but its all ours)
if you find OBD2 outside USA that means they had the ECUs; cheaper and used them. end story, or added queer connectors
the 16pin is USA spec. lacking 16p D shell means its not a USA spec. car. at all.
more (we still have zero facts) but this.
what car?., A KIA Pride. Kia Pride 1.3 Liter 4 Cylinder (tells me zero , but the engine displacement0
"Located in Iran"ok good. I've no idea in the world what import laws regulate cars in IRAN. (my wild guess, is you can run any car there, but that is speculative! on my part)
what year car?" in iran between 2002 ~ 2004 " (the car has body tags tell in the year its made, all cars do. so?????????????????????
where made:
"in Europa Between 1995 ~ 1998 i Think" (again all cars have the market code and the manufactured date clearly marked on the body tags) (look everywhere)
best is to know, not guess.... in all cases working on cars and 10x that for EFI.
located in what country. this car.? in Iran
." Because I'm living in Iran .But this car Copy From Ford festiva . i Think "
im not sure what ford has to do with a kia. ???
if the car is made in EUROPE, (the tags tell you that)
and is with a body tag showing its for EUROPEAN market (IS IT?) then talk only to forum people and tool makers from EUROPE.
The way to do that is say Kia pride , xxxx year for zzzz market , made on data. mm/yy and marketed to say, Russia. (wild guess)
and get good answers. no guessing above. otherwise all answers will be wrong, for sure mine.
see? asking someone far away about a car that does not exist at the helper country is fruitless. (in most cases, even on BATAUTO, is wrong answers there , all over)
ours cars are different
as are all other countries cars.
by law.
and where laws dont exists? (then that is worse,because the car can be from Anywhere on earth or marketed to any country on earth.) (wow, now that is IMPOSSIBLE)
up here, those are called "gray market cars", (illegal in the USA , since smog law 1 in the 70's)
we still dont know what car you have.
unless you photo ever tag on the car. and post them.
chassis tags, body tags, door jam tags, hood tags, fire wall tags.
that is the only way to find the truth. if possible at all.
"In most of the world, OBD-II was mandatory in 1996" (lies) totally bs)
in the link above., the guy says that....
OBD2 is a law only in the uSA in 1996 (ONLY)
the world didnt all go GASP, gee lets all copy the USA in 1996, sorry that did not happen.
OBD has a history, covered in SAE.org here. (we started OBD back in
and the world did what they wanted,
some even copied ours and did a SUPER SET, called, EOBD. (EU did that) copied ours and added to it.
see?
and others have even in 2006, (but is not our spec, not at all;, some use the wrong connector, and with that missing its not OBD2 at all.
but can work, if you correct that silly error of there;s
its silly why copy a spec, and delete the most important part
all scan tools here just plug in , and work here, no adapters needed, and is the LAW here.
so far all we know is zero
in 21 post
this car has page, and when one reads it , the brain hurts
wow an abomination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Festiva
and this.....
"SAIPA built the Kia Pride in Iran under license using up to 85 percent local parts as the "SAIPA Pride" from 2001 to 2005. Since 2003, a new five-door liftback model based on the Pride called the "SAIPA 141" has been produced, while continuing to sell the Iranian version of the Pride under the names "SAIPA Saba GLXi" (four-door sedan), "SAIPA Nasim Safari" (five-door wagon) and "SAIPA Nasim DMi" (five-door hatchback). Compared to the these versions, the SAIPA 141 features revised rear styling with a longer liftback tail, and different interior design. "
join a SAIPA forum??????
wow complex mix of parts , the likes of which never seen by me...... almost as bad as GEO's
post all body tags
These cars are made in many factories and are made for many countries.
we have zero inputs from you on these facts
nor tag photos posted.
zero.
OBD started here in 1988,for the 1990 year. here.
suzuki started early in 1989
that is a fact. and the specification did not call for private or shop tools.AT all.
in fact each car needed its own tool then. (there are cars in the 1980s here, like GM that have OBD like communications, but is not government regulated then,)
in 1996 the tool was GOV specified. here and only here.
fast forward to 2015.
there are tools that can do many ODB1 , OBD2, EOBD , JOBD, cars. and are expensive.
there are no tools on EARTH that can do that for all countries.!!!
if you could , you'd be a billion air over night.
i promise.
but not one can help you lacking what car you drive, so far only ECU photo shown.
why are you reading USA web pages about, non USA cars, (yes, Google is stupid it don't know a thing about cars)
why not read the cascade page?
What vehicles can be diagnosed?
it says, under what is CASCADE?:
"CASCADE generally supports all vehicles that allow diagnosis via K/L or CAN bus.
The support for specific models depends on the diagnostic software being used.
The Hi-Scan Pro software releases support Hyundai or Kia vehicles sold on the American market from model year 1990 up to about 2007; for Carman Scan I software, the manufacturer provides a vehicle coverage list; it supports virtually all makes and models of vehicles, up to about model year 2010." (at $700 to $3000 USD)!
sold on the American market (yours is NOT)
Canada here went to OBD2 in 1998. but again, your car is not Canadian, not in the least.
here is better page to read off my OBD1 page
OBD2 list
http://www.totalcardiagnostics.com/suppo...d-software
Your car is not USA car, our cars have OBD2 EPA regulations this year, that are not used, in your country.
there web site is very poor (like mine)
but mine says USA cars only. at the top for real good reasons
EFI system very the world over. by laws or in some countries, what is the cheapest EFI to put on the car, EVER SEEN JDM setups. (grossly limited)
you keep reading USA web pages, why are you doing that.....
i know its the www, and most pages are for the country hosting said pages,
then you quote UK, they have there own cars EFI aND LAWS. UNLIKE YOURS. TOTALLY.
THAT BATAUTO POST.
The first expert there complains that why not post your cars location or better the MARKET CODES>
all cars are build to a MARKET, why not say so, and on forums , say so, I know nobody does,. ever.
and all answers go side ways. for that #1 reason.
if you read 1million posts on cars you see the profound ignorance, that the person posting thanks all cars are the same with same silly name on the side of care.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME !
sorry but those are facts.
even the expert there, is ignorant.
"Now I am really confused, I checked my data base for a festiva of this era, it has an OBD2 plugin. Is this your car."
totally fails, that, he's never left the USA like me, ive traveled all over the PAC RIM. (navy then later at Phillips semi for for our plants)
I pay attention this this. (have the factory books too)
some cars are OBD2 (1/2) with ODD connector that adapts it to fit USA OBD2 scan tools (OBD2 is a usa invention and is our laws, other have copied it or extended it but its all ours)
if you find OBD2 outside USA that means they had the ECUs; cheaper and used them. end story, or added queer connectors
the 16pin is USA spec. lacking 16p D shell means its not a USA spec. car. at all.
more (we still have zero facts) but this.
what car?., A KIA Pride. Kia Pride 1.3 Liter 4 Cylinder (tells me zero , but the engine displacement0
"Located in Iran"ok good. I've no idea in the world what import laws regulate cars in IRAN. (my wild guess, is you can run any car there, but that is speculative! on my part)
what year car?" in iran between 2002 ~ 2004 " (the car has body tags tell in the year its made, all cars do. so?????????????????????
where made:
"in Europa Between 1995 ~ 1998 i Think" (again all cars have the market code and the manufactured date clearly marked on the body tags) (look everywhere)
best is to know, not guess.... in all cases working on cars and 10x that for EFI.
located in what country. this car.? in Iran
." Because I'm living in Iran .But this car Copy From Ford festiva . i Think "
im not sure what ford has to do with a kia. ???
if the car is made in EUROPE, (the tags tell you that)
and is with a body tag showing its for EUROPEAN market (IS IT?) then talk only to forum people and tool makers from EUROPE.
The way to do that is say Kia pride , xxxx year for zzzz market , made on data. mm/yy and marketed to say, Russia. (wild guess)
and get good answers. no guessing above. otherwise all answers will be wrong, for sure mine.
see? asking someone far away about a car that does not exist at the helper country is fruitless. (in most cases, even on BATAUTO, is wrong answers there , all over)
ours cars are different
as are all other countries cars.
by law.
and where laws dont exists? (then that is worse,because the car can be from Anywhere on earth or marketed to any country on earth.) (wow, now that is IMPOSSIBLE)
up here, those are called "gray market cars", (illegal in the USA , since smog law 1 in the 70's)
we still dont know what car you have.
unless you photo ever tag on the car. and post them.
chassis tags, body tags, door jam tags, hood tags, fire wall tags.
that is the only way to find the truth. if possible at all.
"In most of the world, OBD-II was mandatory in 1996" (lies) totally bs)
in the link above., the guy says that....
OBD2 is a law only in the uSA in 1996 (ONLY)
the world didnt all go GASP, gee lets all copy the USA in 1996, sorry that did not happen.
OBD has a history, covered in SAE.org here. (we started OBD back in
and the world did what they wanted,
some even copied ours and did a SUPER SET, called, EOBD. (EU did that) copied ours and added to it.
see?
and others have even in 2006, (but is not our spec, not at all;, some use the wrong connector, and with that missing its not OBD2 at all.
but can work, if you correct that silly error of there;s
its silly why copy a spec, and delete the most important part
all scan tools here just plug in , and work here, no adapters needed, and is the LAW here.
so far all we know is zero
in 21 post
this car has page, and when one reads it , the brain hurts
wow an abomination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Festiva
and this.....
"SAIPA built the Kia Pride in Iran under license using up to 85 percent local parts as the "SAIPA Pride" from 2001 to 2005. Since 2003, a new five-door liftback model based on the Pride called the "SAIPA 141" has been produced, while continuing to sell the Iranian version of the Pride under the names "SAIPA Saba GLXi" (four-door sedan), "SAIPA Nasim Safari" (five-door wagon) and "SAIPA Nasim DMi" (five-door hatchback). Compared to the these versions, the SAIPA 141 features revised rear styling with a longer liftback tail, and different interior design. "
join a SAIPA forum??????
wow complex mix of parts , the likes of which never seen by me...... almost as bad as GEO's
post all body tags
These cars are made in many factories and are made for many countries.
we have zero inputs from you on these facts
nor tag photos posted.
zero.
OBD started here in 1988,for the 1990 year. here.
suzuki started early in 1989
that is a fact. and the specification did not call for private or shop tools.AT all.
in fact each car needed its own tool then. (there are cars in the 1980s here, like GM that have OBD like communications, but is not government regulated then,)
in 1996 the tool was GOV specified. here and only here.
fast forward to 2015.
there are tools that can do many ODB1 , OBD2, EOBD , JOBD, cars. and are expensive.
there are no tools on EARTH that can do that for all countries.!!!
if you could , you'd be a billion air over night.
i promise.
but not one can help you lacking what car you drive, so far only ECU photo shown.
http://www.fixkick.com