05-02-2019, 08:33 AM
well since it ticked 1 time not moving that means it's not the suspension or driveline behind the clutch.
a clutch can in fact tick, even parked, even in Neutral or all the time or only when it wants to (picture in your mind parts cracked inside there, or warped)
not axles, no wheels/tires or brakes, not parked its not, not prop shafts (unless the u-joint bearings is so shot it vibrates and rattles like babies rattle.)
I grab both prop shaft ends at the joint and man handle them to see of they move in illegal ways. (loose) it can move front and back a bit and turn but not side to side 360degrees or the ujoint is shot. (picture engine shakes then bell the 5speed box and its tail shaft moving and Ujoint rattling, YAH seen many.
the $5 tool in 5 minutes work crosses off all 4 injectors. if they all sound good and THE same they are ok.... be a pain to replace them for no gain, and expensive.
the 2 persons I told you , the 2nd person can in fact do lots of things, here it is again
person 2 can use a rubber hose to his hear moving car and moving hose, under dash. top , vents etc.
person 2, can use the electronic stethoscope and head phones ($5 cheap that phones) the STEELman, clamp microhone somewhere drive, 2nd man listens for ticks not normal.
person 2 can hang head out window, and say, omg its out here. that sound.
Person 2 can remove hood on car, hang head out the window (on safe road) and go gee with hood off the sound is now HUGE outside and up front.
Person 2, hell its rag top he can stand on the seat and list over windshied and go gee, i here it in the engine bay.
or do all that with steelman ,for $30 and time.
ever do the 60k mile cam belt???? if not why? it will shred and will make noise at unpredictable RPMs. ever to the belt, cam, or running it till it snaps and a long walk home?
The engine shakes on this car as it's 4 cylinder and all shake badly lacking the Engine block silence shaft (counter balance'r shaft) so if any thing on the car is loose.
it vibrates at the engine shake rate, or misfire rate worse, ever pluck a Guitar string and see the others move, a bit, in what we call sympathetic vibration.?
sounds telegraph in machines to, a noise moves down a body part or drive shaft and makes noise at the other end. just like 2 tin cans on a string as telephone. (kid DIY toy)
In a shop they RACK the car so the wheels are off the ground then person 1 drives car in the air. (virtual driving)
person 2 (insurance paid in full,lol) finds the noise.
one way to do this 10 times safer, is to do the rack test, connect the STEELMAN mic. (one model has 4 mikes) and we connect to things that can make noise that are not spinning, (lots)
and we listen standing back safely, person 1 in car is driving like a maniac going nowhere at all. see?
one time we saw this and only a left turn make noise. found harness band clamp on the harness just above the bell hits bell only in left turns. found on a rack , 5 shops gave up.
one more failure, , almost new car 2010 in 2015, big jeep. (now mine cheap)_
seller has car cheaper to sell, dirt cheap , seller thinks it deep bad problem , due to very odd and nasty
noise.
i find it in 5mins, the last derp did spark plugs had to loosen the AC compressor. and forget to torque 1 bolt. what horrible sound that made
I found it with a lever trick i use my wonder bar and pry things, engine running, (with great care) even find bad engine mounts this way with 2x4 board prying the whole engine left then right.
same as loose exhaust header on new engine sounded like MAIN bearing bad, and are new. almost pee'd pants, then....and my fault .and 15min fix.
and last the G16b that makes horrible noise. but ONLY when it wants and only with lots of throttle actions. (yes engine vibs)
the rear mount on the huge aluminum induction pipe on 96 G16b the back mount broke off, and the cracked mount kisses, and well again, makes noise only when IT WANTS to.
3000 parts to rattle, that is all I think of, at moments like this. and many do.
if you set all brakes.
then in reverse or 1st gear, try to move the car, (but can't) using only the clutch and brakes hold the car.
the clutch will get to hot, but do it for say 3 seconds rest 1min and repeat, can you make the noise by using the clutch as a DYNO load? like?
on AT this is called the stall test. on 5speed it is clutch torture. but can find noises and as I told you 2 men, one with moving ears, and you at clutch.
the checks are endless. for noise, and many are dangerous an guessing 4 injectors out of 3000 parts, is a shot in the dark IMO
a clutch can in fact tick, even parked, even in Neutral or all the time or only when it wants to (picture in your mind parts cracked inside there, or warped)
not axles, no wheels/tires or brakes, not parked its not, not prop shafts (unless the u-joint bearings is so shot it vibrates and rattles like babies rattle.)
I grab both prop shaft ends at the joint and man handle them to see of they move in illegal ways. (loose) it can move front and back a bit and turn but not side to side 360degrees or the ujoint is shot. (picture engine shakes then bell the 5speed box and its tail shaft moving and Ujoint rattling, YAH seen many.
the $5 tool in 5 minutes work crosses off all 4 injectors. if they all sound good and THE same they are ok.... be a pain to replace them for no gain, and expensive.
the 2 persons I told you , the 2nd person can in fact do lots of things, here it is again
person 2 can use a rubber hose to his hear moving car and moving hose, under dash. top , vents etc.
person 2, can use the electronic stethoscope and head phones ($5 cheap that phones) the STEELman, clamp microhone somewhere drive, 2nd man listens for ticks not normal.
person 2 can hang head out window, and say, omg its out here. that sound.
Person 2 can remove hood on car, hang head out the window (on safe road) and go gee with hood off the sound is now HUGE outside and up front.
Person 2, hell its rag top he can stand on the seat and list over windshied and go gee, i here it in the engine bay.
or do all that with steelman ,for $30 and time.
ever do the 60k mile cam belt???? if not why? it will shred and will make noise at unpredictable RPMs. ever to the belt, cam, or running it till it snaps and a long walk home?
The engine shakes on this car as it's 4 cylinder and all shake badly lacking the Engine block silence shaft (counter balance'r shaft) so if any thing on the car is loose.
it vibrates at the engine shake rate, or misfire rate worse, ever pluck a Guitar string and see the others move, a bit, in what we call sympathetic vibration.?
sounds telegraph in machines to, a noise moves down a body part or drive shaft and makes noise at the other end. just like 2 tin cans on a string as telephone. (kid DIY toy)
In a shop they RACK the car so the wheels are off the ground then person 1 drives car in the air. (virtual driving)
person 2 (insurance paid in full,lol) finds the noise.
one way to do this 10 times safer, is to do the rack test, connect the STEELMAN mic. (one model has 4 mikes) and we connect to things that can make noise that are not spinning, (lots)
and we listen standing back safely, person 1 in car is driving like a maniac going nowhere at all. see?
one time we saw this and only a left turn make noise. found harness band clamp on the harness just above the bell hits bell only in left turns. found on a rack , 5 shops gave up.
one more failure, , almost new car 2010 in 2015, big jeep. (now mine cheap)_
seller has car cheaper to sell, dirt cheap , seller thinks it deep bad problem , due to very odd and nasty
noise.
i find it in 5mins, the last derp did spark plugs had to loosen the AC compressor. and forget to torque 1 bolt. what horrible sound that made
I found it with a lever trick i use my wonder bar and pry things, engine running, (with great care) even find bad engine mounts this way with 2x4 board prying the whole engine left then right.
same as loose exhaust header on new engine sounded like MAIN bearing bad, and are new. almost pee'd pants, then....and my fault .and 15min fix.
and last the G16b that makes horrible noise. but ONLY when it wants and only with lots of throttle actions. (yes engine vibs)
the rear mount on the huge aluminum induction pipe on 96 G16b the back mount broke off, and the cracked mount kisses, and well again, makes noise only when IT WANTS to.
3000 parts to rattle, that is all I think of, at moments like this. and many do.
if you set all brakes.
then in reverse or 1st gear, try to move the car, (but can't) using only the clutch and brakes hold the car.
the clutch will get to hot, but do it for say 3 seconds rest 1min and repeat, can you make the noise by using the clutch as a DYNO load? like?
on AT this is called the stall test. on 5speed it is clutch torture. but can find noises and as I told you 2 men, one with moving ears, and you at clutch.
the checks are endless. for noise, and many are dangerous an guessing 4 injectors out of 3000 parts, is a shot in the dark IMO
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