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no spark
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(01-05-2014, 08:43 AM)stickerbuoy Wrote: Hey guys,
I have a '95 2-door 16V Auto (Canadian). It is currently sitting on a mountain pass and will not start. No spark at plugs or distributor. I caught a ride into the nearest town, but I'm somewhat stranded right now. OUCH, (does the CEL glow key on?) if not fuses blew, or ECU internal caps shorted, the do 1 time.


About 2 weeks ago it died after about about 10 minutes of driving on the highway. I pulled over and turned it off. It started back up again no problem.
The next day it did the exact same thing at the exact same place on the highway.

2 days ago I started driving back home (was at the parent's place for Christmas). After 4 hours of uneventful driving, we stopped for the night. It got turned off and on a few times as we ran a few errands in town. The 3rd or 4th time I tried to start it it almost caught, but quickly died. All subsequent attempts to start it that night failed.

The next morning it still wouldn't start initially. Fuel pump seemed to be working (could hear air getting sucked into gas tank when the key was turned). We pulled a spark plug wire and grounded it with a screw driver to test spark, and it fired right up.

Took it to mechanic, but since it was running great, he couldn't find anything. I decided to try and finish the rest of the journey home (perhaps not so smart, but what's done is done).
A few hours into the trip, the car died again. Once again I pulled over, and it started up fine. That happened a few more times. The 3rd or 4th time I had to do the screwdriver in spark plug wire again to get it to go. Finally it died just before a mountain pass, and would not start. Tested the spark at the plug, wire, and distributor, and couldn't get anything.

By that point it was dark, snowing, and cold, so rather than keep troubleshooting I caught a ride with somebody who stopped to help.

There are no error codes being thrown. ( crank for 5 seconds with diag-jumper inserted, get code 41 or 42 and that is it. bad cmp or bad ignitor;.)
you mean it flashes code 12, running and stalled, drive with the jumper. if it starts. or crank and watch for 41/42s/
CEL dead is bad ECU, (or fuse)
CEL that will not flash on demand, bad ECU.



My cousin thinks it's the ECU, and I'm starting to think he might be right.
Battery is brand new and was turning over just fine when I left it (650 cold cranking amps, so no problems there). its good.

I have at home two other sidekicks (all Canadian):
-94 manual 4-door 16v 1.6L no good for auto this ecu)
-96 auto 4-door 16V 1.6L (no good for parts, its OBD2)

Right now my buddy is pulling out the computer, distributor, and ignition coil from the '94. I figured the computer from the '94 would have the best chance of working in my '95 2-door. Any suggestions? (it will start but , your 3speed, will not lock TCC up, or of 4speed, The TCM will go quite nuts., should start ok.

tell me about the CEL was it glowing at STALL?.???? if not its crashed.

the ECU if good, and not needing new caps as all 95 need, 1 time. will report the CMP dead, in 5seconds cranking, very reliably code 42, code 41 is ignition signal dead.
do not pull the dizzy unless you stop it at TDC #1 firing, or you will lose the timing and compound all this.....

The ECU will report spark bad, (primary side)
do you have a tachmeter?, does the needle deflect 1/4" cranking, if not the (coil, ignitor or CMP are dead) but the CMP is discounted with Diag jumper, no code 42's during 5 sec. crank.
the Tach must twitch upscale a tad, 0.3k rpm, it moves tiny bit, this is spark feed back, moving the tach,,, code 41 kills tacho sigs.

also bad ground to dizzy
see my bad ground list for 95
G109

http://www.fixkick.com/Good_Bad_Ugly/com...lures.html

the mt drives with A/T ECu, but never tried, reverse way.
ill look up the pins on the 2 ECU's, and see what's there. .later.
http://www.fixkick.com
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Messages In This Thread
no spark - by stickerbuoy - 01-05-2014, 08:43 AM
RE: no spark - by fixkick - 01-05-2014, 12:12 PM
RE: no spark - by stickerbuoy - 01-06-2014, 05:38 PM
RE: no spark - by fixkick - 01-06-2014, 11:23 PM
RE: no spark - by stickerbuoy - 01-07-2014, 04:05 PM
RE: no spark - by fixkick - 01-07-2014, 09:16 PM
RE: no spark - by stickerbuoy - 01-09-2014, 05:42 PM
RE: no spark - by fixkick - 01-09-2014, 09:47 PM
RE: no spark - by stickerbuoy - 01-12-2014, 11:34 AM
RE: no spark - by fixkick - 01-12-2014, 11:46 AM

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