I am out here working on my '90, trying to repack wheel bearings, but I cannot seem to get the auto locking hub off. I removed the 6 allen screws attaching it to the wheel hub, and it comes out about q/8 inch, but will not let go. Has anyone else run into this? I dont want to break anything, but should I pry out on it?
So, I finally got it... The reason it was so hard is that there is a rang on the apeing loaded mwtal washer on the freewheel hub. This tang apparently broke off long ago, and the remaining part of it cut a groove into the end of the spindle as the washer was then allowed to spin. The stump of the tang was caught in that groove.
That begs the question, what would be the chance of finding a new washer for sale? If someone has one I would be interested. I have attached a picture.
fixing outauto hubs is , like star trek? going where no man has gone before?
there are more than one type used, some are very hard to dismantle.
is that original? Aisin brand?
I think it is original, but not positive. It looks like "Style 2" on your page. I think I want to stick with the autos, at least for now. I like.the idea of not having to get out in the mud to lock them in.
Hopefully I can find someone who has changed to manuals and has this type of auto they dont want anymore.
03-31-2015, 11:09 PM (This post was last modified: 03-31-2015, 11:17 PM by fixkick.)
find used ones that match on ebay
there are no new parts sold for the guts.
if suzuki has them in stock, you wont like the price.
the 90 has no autos new. i think, (well in USA)
they all were manuals.
so....
matching them is harder, as the parts book will be wrong for 90
i turn the dial, walking to car on ice (or car in garage and i see ICE all the way to work on the highway cams..... im ready)
or just before leaving pavement , to dirt, i turn the dial to lock.
i never found this hard, to do.
and have found fixing and servicing manuals to be very easy, and some autos can be very hard to fix , clean,service or repair.. or have bad plastics inside.
in most cases, simple wins. (for sure stuck offroad 20 miles in the forest)
backing up to unlock them can be a pain on auto's. (to avoid part time bindup, moving on to pavement)
I.am pretty sure the autos were original on LSi models. They are mentioned in the 90 owners manual. I h ot lucky, and a local junkyard I had forgotten about had one, so I am back in business. It was the Style 2 just like mine. Got both sides wheel bearings repacked, new lock ring screws, new calipers, and rotors. Back on the road!
i dont know, its a tracker not a suzuki sidekick
i dont have a ufishe reader to look up 1990?
but have this page 6 http://ge.tt/8vB7JU91/v/0?c
the $658 GM hubs... yes.
great, you are lucky to have parts. most places no parts. used, or is crushed after 6 months sitting (recycled to metal buyers)
i dont have 90 operators guide, those too are very rare .... to find....
here are the 4 choices in 96 http://www.fixkick.com/hubs/97-98spindle-locs.JPG
(03-31-2015, 01:08 PM)GeoCacher90 Wrote: I think I want to stick with the autos, at least for now. I like.the idea of not having to get out in the mud to lock them in.
The auto hubs work great most of the time... but, if you are stuck and try to "rock" back and forth to free the car, you will very quickly find out you can't do it safely.
What happens is you are locked and driving forward. You get stuck, rev the engine and quickly engage reverse. The front wheels start to reverse, then unlock, then make 3/4 turn and relock in reverse. You back up as far as the car can go, then engage forward, the wheels disengage, make the 3/4 turn and then relock going forward. Horrible smashing and banging as I tried to rock myself out of a snow drift like I'd done many times before. I gave up, and had the guys I was travelling with get together and push me out.
Btw, these little 4x4 are very agile, and are capable of handling just about anything a novice off-roader could find; but that just means that when you do get stuck/break something, you are now miles from pavement. ALWAYS explore with someone else, do not rely on cell coverage to help you when you go off road. If you run 235's with a budget 2' lift and a locker in the rear, you can go a long, long way on a decomissioned logging road.
auto ok mostly for street, on ice.
if they work, great but when they fail, as most have after 20 years, they are very hard to service. very hard. one has a snap ring only mickey mouse can reach..
the manual hubs are great. best of best. you are in control at all times. and are easy to service, super easy.
the car is not full time 4wd !, so the automatic hubs really are just a 1/2 measure there.
after all you need to have 4wd , not engaged if not on ice or dirt.
so you know that already, cases in point.,
im leaving the pavement. (get out and turn dial)
i get up and its all ice out side, i go to garage , turn the dial and its in 4wd, and drive to work. (if in montana , its stays like that till spring)
one problem with auto's and PT part time 4wd is what if you need them unlocked, and NOW. and cant drive backwards. (cars behind you) and the road is now free of ice
and hard turns. what now? the cars drive line will wind up.. bad now.. if not unlucked, now...
. how is this a good thing, on the road with cars about. backing up in traffic is never good. (the newer Vitara and trackers , the vacuum servo does this for you)
but pulling over, and turning the dial to unluck, is safer and sure. (same off road , how are you going to backup 7 feet. if then need to be disabled)
operators guide.
1. Stop your vehicle.
2. Drive 7 feet (2 m) in the direction opposite to the
direction you were driving before you stop.
not only that , the autos are hard to test,
20 year old autos.. will they be ready for winter? how would you know? my manuals I just service them easy and know for fact they are ready. come winter..
I also have what I think are "type 2" auto hubs. I got sand and dirt in one and want to take it apart to clean and re-grease. It does not have a snap ring like the one illustrated on fixkick dot com. The manual just says "do not attempt to disassemble". Here is a photo. How do I take it apart? PS. I am going to check prices on those manual hubs that you suggested to others.
1995 Suzuki Sidekick JX 4WD 4-door hardtop, G16 1.6L 16 valve L4 SOHC, 4-spd Auto Trans (Asin AW Model 03-72 LE), Non-ABS, Assembled in Ingersoil, Ontario. Currently in Tok, AK.
