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Help!!! Need Crankshaft/Engine 1600-8V - jay nesbitt - 01-21-2016
Well, bought 90 Tracker and doing maintenance items; no idea when timing belt was changed. I've read the help page (MANY THANKS Fixkick!!!) and saw the TSB on crank bolt torque and broken keys. I noticed the bolt was very loose ~30 ft lbs and was a hardware store bolt (not good signs). When I pulled the lower sprocket, the crankshaft is RUINED. The keyway is ripped out. SO......
I NEED: 1. Crankshaft OR
2. Engine
I am in East Texas- Longview
Cell: 903-399-1901
Thanks,
Jay Nesbitt
RE: Help!!! Need Cranckshaft/Engine 1600-8V - fixkick - 01-21-2016
I'M A NEIGHBOR.!
IF i had a crank, id give to you free.!!!
finding G16s down here i super hard.
try car-parts.com
i had to buy a crank, for one engine. for $250 (reground)
remove it and take it to machine shop,see if they can fix it.? mark all bearings coming out.
some can fix it, have that might. here.
some can do real magic here....
ill pm the address.
RE: Help!!! Need Cranckshaft/Engine 1600-8V - jay nesbitt - 01-21-2016
Well howdy neighbor! From whence do you hail?
This is pretty bad; so bad in fact that I won't loose anything trying. I just called Northern Auto and it was gonna be $460 (core unacceptable) including shipping for a crank kit. I've seen keyways torn/stripped, but this one has cracked so that you can look at the keyway and see the far side threads.
I'll try your advice it's been right on so far!
Thanks, jay
RE: Help!!! Need Cranckshaft/Engine 1600-8V - fixkick - 01-21-2016
ohhhhh that is horrid bad..... "to the threads !"
the rebuilt crank will be ground and needs all new bearing shells.
adds to cost. (and tests, labor)
if you had a good core, a regrind is a fraction of that $450.
BUYING CRANKS FROM 4wd shops is like huge markup.
100 core
100 grind
250 to put it in pretty box.
see below:
16v but they do 8v too. some are same exact crank. (rods and pistons are different)
Utah
http://www.cleggengine.com/91-03-suzuki-1590-1-6l-i4-crankshaft-kit.html
when searching, do suzuki sidekick and tracker, same G16a
for sure, finding a good core in texas, that be hard.
one way is to post a WTB on craigs
wanted to by Suzuki/sidekick-Tracker engine crank,running or not.
then us 17mm wrench to see if core is ok.
that is what i did to find a block , not cracked,,,, hard it was to find one....
a real machine shop can do magic.
they can weld , remachine it and tape it.
this is how rear cars like 1935 ford or chevy are kept going. car with rare part.
the G16 is also in the ESTEEM, (use that too in searches)
good luck in your , project !!!!
got one from rock too
once
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1271450&parttype=5292
came from big , top Florida, rebuilder.
one way to find it to call all top builders. (cranks) some have cores, if do, might be low price
many sellers know that the cores are rare now. and charge for that......
many G16 engines are now melted. now turned in to beer cans..
sad, but true.
got machines shops in Longview??????
walk in to each,
hand crank to top guy (gun)
the only big problem
is crank material.?
if cast iron, welding is near impossible on this material, and ive no clues as to what the metal. is here...
force steel is best. but rare. and most easy to rework.
RE: Help!!! Need Cranckshaft/Engine 1600-8V - jay nesbitt - 01-22-2016
The Rock price was just marginally lower than the $460 after you add shipping. At least that is another option.
I have a lead or two on an engine or crank with people supposed to call me back in a day or three.
I'm tempted to find a more current/popular 4 cylinder engine of like displacement and manual transmission and adapt the TB, running a manual dist. I'm just not that savvy on small foreign (design) engines. Surely Mazda/ Toy/Hondo has one.
I'm more of an American (Chevy/GM) guy. I guess a 5.3 LS is out of the question???!!!!HAHAHAHAH...
I do have a few 215 Aluminum Buicks (V8), and many small block chevys (too heavy) v6 Buick etc I could swap in.
Options/Options.....
And I had planned on keeping this Tracker stock NOT Hot Rod!!!
Jay
RE: Help!!! Need Cranckshaft/Engine 1600-8V - fixkick - 01-22-2016
is car 4wd, if yes, how to keep that working?
the hard part with swaps
is making transmission adapter that works. the pilot shaft must fit perfectly or both bearings fail fast.
if swap engine WITH ALIEN TRANS.. you need new mounts and custom prop shafts, donor harness and donor EFI system and all that.
actually this car is no different from a wrangler, 4cyl. 100% usa.
near exact same car, 1/2 weight and super nibble off road THE TRACKER, have one now, a 2008 sold 2002 last year.
the wrangler runs near same EFI as yours, (year for year,) both are mAP sensor based
the most eASY SWAP IS CARB ENGINE, NO EFI.
BUT WHERE TO GET CARB KITS?
so run NEW HARleY CV CARB. EASY TO TUNE WITH OLD DISTRIBUTORS.
ANY SWAP IS POSSIBLE THERE ARE NO LIMITS UP TO 200 P, WITH STOCK TRANS AND AXLE
WE know this because at 200hp, the turbo ized kick breaks things, 1 by 1....
I know a guy in montana with ford Pinto body (his joke) on 3/4 ton, chev 4x4 old pickup chassis.
funny to see going down road there....
many folks with blown engine get hungry for the J20
http://www.fixkick.com/wild-cards/j20-to-G16.html
there are no easy swaps.. all have pit falls ,endless.
my wild ideas,,, always wanted try. (have too many in head)
but with higher skills and tools
one could take say any 1.6 toy engine (old and low HP
and make the exhaust fit(sure mounts and bell adapter or toy trans)
then take the 2 intake manifolds
and cut the toy mount side off its intake flange, remove the flange. (toy man)
then same on yours,cut off the flange.
then tig weld toy to your intake runners.(a toy-kick is born)
bingo. fooled the ECU, all it knows is it sucks the same. (mostly but the VE tables will not match) so use toy with smallest valves or count.
aim for 100hp max . not more so the toy flows same flows.
your head is a 80hp head, try to stay there, so ECU works right.
on the 16v is this way more easy,with maf sensors
8v has complex map tables....
the best engine IMO is the toy a4 series.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_A_engine#4A
right flows
and lots in the wild, unlike suzuki
and lots of old once with 8valves
if 2wd
the alien engine with trans works best
fun ideas
thanks
RE: Help!!! Need Crankshaft/Engine 1600-8V - fixkick - 01-22-2016
alternates
http://www.fixkick.com/t-belt/damage/index.html#alternates
too bad we can't just buy a core.
then have it reground locally, (its very low cost here)
they list them on car-parts.com
95 , engine block, or engine or crankshaft,
http://www.car-part.com
try geo tracker, sidekick and 1.6L esteem
the highest hit above
are under "engine block". at car-parts.com
be cool to find a block for same prices as crank core.
many are.
RE: Help!!! Need Crankshaft/Engine 1600-8V - jay nesbitt - 01-23-2016
Morning All!
Yes, I am aware of the Loctite Products. The thread restorer; stud and bearing mount; various epoxies....
On the carparts.com , I guess no hits starts a search with email responses? I tried tracker/sidekick, but NOT esteem. Will try that...
Got some hits on Esteem, ok. that does give me more options! .......thanks!
I have leads for atleast one engine and one crank and one 2WD donor vehicle (a 93) waiting for pics, but the donor is 3 hours away..... Think it is 8v
Jay
RE: Help!!! Need Crankshaft/Engine 1600-8V - fixkick - 01-23-2016
the wrong url
car-parts.com (dash matters
it has huge parts, vast.
was part my fault they don't allow deep , URL links, silly yes.
http://www.car-part.com/
try all years, 91 to 1995
box 1, 1995
box 2 suzuki side kick
box 3 engine
leave all else blank,,, is best
answer 2dr 8v (note how smart they are on engine type, unlike most places, suzuki uses engine 0 for both engines,
38 hits
on bock only16 hit
crank only
3 hits
the car is rare, the page even searches canada.
I had best luck on craigs WTB begging an found lots of suzuki horders. (back yards filled with them)
RE: Help!!! Need Crankshaft/Engine 1600-8V - jjgolf - 03-08-2016
Another suggestion is "pick n pull" scrapyards. http://www.picknpull.com/ You have to check frequently cause they move em thru quick. On 50% off sale days that makes a motor roughly $100. Can't beat it.
jggolf