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What is the exact size of the serpentine belt of Sidekick Sport 1.8l with AC - rasmeidirt - 11-09-2020

As the tittle says, I currently replace with 5PK1650, but during the long idle at the stop lights, I feel the belt is loosen and the belt tensioner makes noise unless I switch off the AC. Does anybody know where can I make tension a little bit or the smaller size than this one??

the 1650 means 1650mm long, 1550 is no AC.
wide is 17mm. on both,


RE: What is the exact size of the serpentine belt of Sidekick Sport 1.8l with AC - fixkick - 11-09-2020

(11-09-2020, 12:09 PM)rasmeidirt Wrote: As the tittle says, I currently replace with 5PK1650, but during the long idle at the stop lights, I feel the belt is loosen and the belt tension-er makes noise unless I switch off the AC. Does anybody know where can I make tension a little bit or the smaller size than this one??
serp fan belts , accessory belts.  (a shop finds the true source of noise first)
ok which one?  can I guess belt 12?
#10 is the spring loaded tension-er , I say the bearing inside #10 is bad. or worse,(all bad)   the tension-er marks to show when spring is now too weak.(and arrow)
# 7 is idler pulley.
why not have shop look at it, and they use eyes and stethoscope to find the 1 part that makes noise. then bingo.
All these parts can make noise , 19,13,7,10, and 1. all have bearings all fail, sooner or later all parts fails.  if bearing feels loose it is bad.
a bearing must turn smooth only, no grinding or loose  nor wobble nor flex in any why, other than spin.
#10 is spring loaded tension-er. it the same rules but flexed up and down , and is a spring.  


[Image: engine16.jpg]
most cars this old the tension-ers go bad.  , both of them and with springs inside, and all bearing related go bad.  this is what they do.

did you RTM the installer manual on this #10 device.  it must be installed correctly not just thrown on the engien.
take note of marks a,b,c,
a/b  shows the loaded tension normal window,  c= marks direction of tension.   we preload the b to a, then lay on belt and release  the center nut below.
on car we turn center bolt clockwise, with a wrench then lay on the belt and release the wrench,  if the pulley feels loose or grinds turned the bearing is bad. 

[Image: 485_howto.jpeg]


RE: What is the exact size of the serpentine belt of Sidekick Sport 1.8l with AC - rasmeidirt - 11-10-2020

(11-09-2020, 09:13 PM)fixkick Wrote:
(11-09-2020, 12:09 PM)rasmeidirt Wrote: As the tittle says, I currently replace with 5PK1650, but during the long idle at the stop lights, I feel the belt is loosen and the belt tension-er makes noise unless I switch off the AC. Does anybody know where can I make tension a little bit or the smaller size than this one??
serp fan belts , accessory belts.  (a shop finds the true source of noise first)
ok which one?  can I guess belt 12?
#10 is the spring loaded tension-er , I say the bearing inside #10 is bad. or worse,(all bad)   the tension-er marks to show when spring is now too weak.(and arrow)
# 7 is idler pulley.
why not have shop look at it, and they use eyes and stethoscope to find the 1 part that makes noise. then bingo.
All these parts can make noise , 19,13,7,10, and 1. all have bearings all fail, sooner or later all parts fails.  if bearing feels loose it is bad.
a bearing must turn smooth only, no grinding or loose  nor wobble nor flex in any why, other than spin.
#10 is spring loaded tension-er. it the same rules but flexed up and down , and is a spring.  


[Image: engine16.jpg]
most cars this old the tension-ers go bad.  , both of them and with springs inside, and all bearing related go bad.  this is what they do.

did you RTM the installer manual on this #10 device.  it must be installed correctly not just thrown on the engien.
take note of marks a,b,c,
a/b  shows the loaded tension normal window,  c= marks direction of tension.   we preload the b to a, then lay on belt and release  the center nut below.
on car we turn center bolt clockwise, with a wrench then lay on the belt and release the wrench,  if the pulley feels loose or grinds turned the bearing is bad. 

[Image: 485_howto.jpeg]
Thanks.
Number 12, the exact size??
Number 10 was replaced with Gates 38156 purchased from rockauto.com several months ago, does it go bad again?? There is something anywhere I can tighten it a bit??


RE: What is the exact size of the serpentine belt of Sidekick Sport 1.8l with AC - fixkick - 11-11-2020

(11-10-2020, 10:30 AM)rasmeidirt Wrote:
(11-09-2020, 09:13 PM)fixkick Wrote:
(11-09-2020, 12:09 PM)rasmeidirt Wrote: As the tittle says, I currently replace with 5PK1650, but during the long idle at the stop lights, I feel the belt is loosen and the belt tension-er makes noise unless I switch off the AC. Does anybody know where can I make tension a little bit or the smaller size than this one??
serp fan belts , accessory belts.  (a shop finds the true source of noise first)
ok which one?  can I guess belt 12?
#10 is the spring loaded tension-er , I say the bearing inside #10 is bad. or worse,(all bad)   the tension-er marks to show when spring is now too weak.(and arrow)
# 7 is idler pulley.
why not have shop look at it, and they use eyes and stethoscope to find the 1 part that makes noise. then bingo.
All these parts can make noise , 19,13,7,10, and 1. all have bearings all fail, sooner or later all parts fails.  if bearing feels loose it is bad.
a bearing must turn smooth only, no grinding or loose  nor wobble nor flex in any why, other than spin.
#10 is spring loaded tension-er. it the same rules but flexed up and down , and is a spring.  


[Image: engine16.jpg]
most cars this old the tension-ers go bad.  , both of them and with springs inside, and all bearing related go bad.  this is what they do.

did you RTM the installer manual on this #10 device.  it must be installed correctly not just thrown on the engien.
take note of marks a,b,c,
a/b  shows the loaded tension normal window,  c= marks direction of tension.   we preload the b to a, then lay on belt and release  the center nut below.
on car we turn center bolt clockwise, with a wrench then lay on the belt and release the wrench,  if the pulley feels loose or grinds turned the bearing is bad. 

[Image: 485_howto.jpeg]
Thanks.
Number 12, the exact size??
Number 10 was replaced with Gates 38156 purchased from rockauto.com several months ago, does it go bad again?? There is something anywhere I can tighten it a bit??
number 10 what do mean 10 is loose well you can see the pulley is totally adjustable it is and idler wheel,  no spring magic just adjusts by hand.
you need to get  real mechanic here or risk burning up a good engine, IMO.
part 13 adjust by hand, just like  you do with alternator,  you set the tension to spec, just like all belts are not spring loaded.



here is how belt work (buy and sell)

suzuki does not spec it out. nor stock it west cost (not calling them me) they just sell it by partnumber on there web site. (and is not there) Discontinued,

or look in the catalog called GATES belts (one of the biggest maker in the world even used on new toyota cars ) 


or look on Rockauto.com  I keep telling you to look there every time and you forget?
go to rock
look at belts,
click on belt
then click INFO
the INFO icon tells you all you need to know, and  sizes belt   1645mm  clearly with AC , 100mm less without AC.

Rockauto.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/suzuki,1998,sidekick,1.8l+l4,1317413,belt+drive,belt,8900

i click info for with AC and the long belt, there are 3 belts the tiny one for fan and 2 for the main huge belt
the correct belt is the one 100mm longer here.
GATES K050650 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Premium OE Micro-V Belt Info [Image: Heart.png]

w/Air Conditioning (means factory OEM Suzuki AC , sport j18)

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4162&cc=1317413&jsn=826&jsn=826

17mm wide   1667mm long, varies a bit by each maker.

my stores do  not sell parts for J18 sport, or try and sell you wrong parts, endless, here, due to G16 other engine.
Many have no clue what it is.
at least ROCK asks this  1.8L question up front , rock on rock !


RE: What is the exact size of the serpentine belt of Sidekick Sport 1.8l with AC - fixkick - 11-11-2020

this web site nails belt tension.
using a tool

https://www.wikihow.com/Test-Serpentine-Belt-Tension


i have no idea at all the spec, on this car for belts, books are rare as hens teeth or chicken lips.

but the top belt makers have web pages teaching this. (by rib counts)


RE: What is the exact size of the serpentine belt of Sidekick Sport 1.8l with AC - SAbadshah - 12-30-2022

I have absolutely no idea what the belt specifications are for this automobile; publications are as scarce as hen's teeth or chicken lips.

But the best belt manufacturers have websites that educate this. (by counting ribs)


RE: What is the exact size of the serpentine belt of Sidekick Sport 1.8l with AC - fixkick - 01-04-2023

(12-30-2022, 12:26 AM)SAbadshah Wrote: I have absolutely no idea what the belt specifications are for this automobile; publications are as scarce as hen's teeth or chicken lips.

But the best belt manufacturers have websites that educate this. (by counting ribs)

go to gates belts main web and see their ECATALOg and see all suzuki belts there,
all the top belt makers do that,  ecat and belts.

then you read the page on your belt there the full spec is there on the belt. for sure.
the width and circumference is in the model number of the belt.s
here they are

.
Quote:https://www.gates.com/us/en/knowledge-center/resource-library/product-catalogs.html
DIRECT , THE  PART NUMBERS,  HERE CLICK 1 AND SEE FULL SPEC,  WHAT MORE CAN ONE WANT ?

https://www.gatesautocat.com/search-results/?search_type=vehicle&page=0&make=SUZUKI&model=VITARA&vyear=1996&enginecode=J20A&litres=2.0&KW=97&PS=132&enginetype=Petrol&source=result