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adjust door glass on X90 - maint - 09-20-2020
I'm about to quit on adjusting the R side door glass on my X90. It did not work when I bought it and appeared out of adjustment. I replaced the Suzuki window motor with a Toyota one but it was barely better. It seems the glass jams into the channels. I need to grab the top edge and pull it up. Down usually (but not always) works. I have tried a few times to adjust it but am working blind. Is there an order to making the adjustments? I make one adjustment and it seems to change the one I did prior. Lubing the rubber( soap or silicone) helps a bit for the couple of minutes the rubber is wet then jams again.
The X90 uses a scissor type regulator, not the cable type found on a Sidekick.
RE: adjust door glass on X90 - fixkick - 09-20-2020
(09-20-2020, 01:58 PM)maint Wrote: I'm about to quit on adjusting the R side door glass on my X90. It did not work when I bought it and appeared out of adjustment. I replaced the Suzuki window motor with a Toyota one but it was barely better. It seems the glass jams into the channels. I need to grab the top edge and pull it up. Down usually (but not always) works. I have tried a few times to adjust it but am working blind. Is there an order to making the adjustments? I make one adjustment and it seems to change the one I did prior. Lubing the rubber( soap or silicone) helps a bit for the couple of minutes the rubber is wet then jams again.well all old cars do this.
The X90 uses a scissor type regulator, not the cable type found on a Sidekick.
it's friction.
the glass fits in guides. so we pull the door card off and motors , unlinked, and move the glass by hand if you can't , neither can the motor.
also the motor needs large wire gauge so it can pull more current.
the rubbers on the top door end get old and hard and stiff and only New ones, cure that (rare to find)
the guides are flocked they have this fur locking guide cushions inside so when you slam a door the tempered glass does not shatter.
this fur lining gets old and can even pack-up in dirt from 24 years of rain +dirt /mud ,etc.
if you pull the cards and do the tests needed to find true cause is at hand even 2 causes.
pure mechanics issue of by hand fails. (motor unlinked)
RE: adjust door glass on X90 - maint - 09-21-2020
The channel at the front is rubber with no flocking in it. It does allow window to slide better when wet lubed but that is short lived. Window will stay in a position even now with the regulator mechanism and motor out so it is an adjustment issue.
RE: adjust door glass on X90 - fixkick - 09-21-2020
(09-21-2020, 01:42 AM)maint Wrote: The channel at the front is rubber with no flocking in it. It does allow window to slide better when wet lubed but that is short lived. Window will stay in a position even now with the regulator mechanism and motor out so it is an adjustment issue.eeks rubber there. deep down inside door. ouch;/
seen that took had many cars do this back to 1959 (mine)
Use real silicon spray on the rubber and gets slicker than owl snot on door knob (grand pa's, slang)
owned old cars and needed that every week. or the rubber goes sticky.
good luck to you !!!!
RE: adjust door glass on X90 - maint - 09-21-2020
fixkick
"eeks rubber there. deep down inside door. ouch;/
owned old cars and needed that every week. or the rubber goes sticky. "
Do you think it is caused by the rubber? These cars have a reputation for lousy window movements. There are aftermarket channels and I could try one of those as the channel, which is supposed to be one piece with door rubber, is already torn apart at the top of window.
hmmm...that may be a hint??
Update; took a good hard look at the rubber and compared it to the other side (which works..slowly) They are not the same. I assumed, because the top of the R rubber was torn that it had torn off the door seal. Close inspection says that it was torn off a door seal, just not this door. The gap in the channel is ever so slightly tighter and it has extra 'ridges' in the channel. I am going to check at the wreckers and see if any other vehicles use the same style rubber.
RE: adjust door glass on X90 - fixkick - 09-21-2020
(09-21-2020, 03:55 AM)maint Wrote: fixkickparts 12 and 13
"eeks rubber there. deep down inside door. ouch;/
owned old cars and needed that every week. or the rubber goes sticky. "
Do you think it is caused by the rubber? These cars have a reputation for lousy window movements. There are aftermarket channels and I could try one of those as the channel, which is supposed to be one piece with door rubber, is already torn apart at the top of window.
hmmm...that may be a hint??
Update; took a good hard look at the rubber and compared it to the other side (which works..slowly) They are not the same. I assumed, because the top of the R rubber was torn that it had torn off the door seal. Close inspection says that it was torn off a door seal, just not this door. The gap in the channel is ever so slightly tighter and it has extra 'ridges' in the channel. I am going to check at the wreckers and see if any other vehicles use the same style rubber.
https://www.suzukicarparts.com/v-1996-suzuki-x-90--base--1-6l-l4-gas/body--glass-door
RE: adjust door glass on X90 - maint - 09-22-2020
(09-21-2020, 07:52 PM)fixkick Wrote: parts 12 and 13
https://www.suzukicarparts.com/v-1996-suzuki-x-90--base--1-6l-l4-gas/body--glass-door
Those are the metal guides and the outboard one has most of the adjustments. Neither look damaged, in fact they look very good. The outboard one has rollers in it and the hinge side one holds the rubber channel that is a continuation of the door seal. The drawing shows the seal stopping at the top of the door by the non-functioning no-draft but it continues to bottom of the window channel. There is a separate seal for the no-draft.
part 4: R side NLA, L side $265
https://www.suzukicarparts.com/v-1996-suzuki-x-90--base--1-6l-l4-gas/body--door-and-components
I should have known by now about buying vehicles with low production numbers. No (or expensive) parts and no information