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Wires in engine compartment - GFO4501 - 08-13-2018
Hello,
I have had the head reworked on my 92 tracker. Engine was steaming but no water in oil. Head was pressure tested and milled. After putting it all back together, it ran good but was still steaming. Water in the oil this time. I didn’t check the block very well. It had some low spots that I was able to hone out by hand using a grinding stone. Put it back together the second time with another new gasket and can’t get it started. I was careful to check timing marks and took note of valves on 1 and 4 at tdc. I have fuel to the throttle body and have spark. I did, however have a wire left that I didn’t remember taking off either time. I was looking at some of the pictures on your website and found what I think is the same wires on slide 5 of the intake manifold slideshow. The white connector and wires on the lower left of the frame at the firewall. The wires on mine are red and yellow. I can’t find a wire or socket to plug it into. These wires come out of the main harness to the back and just below the intake manifold. Any ideas? Is this keeping it from cranking? Thanks, Greg
RE: Wires in engine compartment - fixkick - 08-13-2018
would not a compression test be first? throttle held open.
8v of 16v? ouch this makes this so hard, !!!!! radical different EFI on the 2 and sensors and harnesses unique.
you meant cranks but will not start, (or the starter is dead or slow, cranking is 100% starter actions, only , it replaced the hand crank on the first TIN LIZZies, model T to A FORD)
I means spinning the crank shaft fast. only. starting is whole other EFI function.
fails on test fuel, spark good is bad engine, or timed wrong.
fuel to TB, but what does the injector do, on 8v can be viewed, if 16v can be. so use test fuel on 16v sure which you would post engine valve count.
there is no crank sensors on this car, only Distributor. CMP
timing light works even on a dead engine. see if timing is 180 out
(08-13-2018, 03:17 AM)GFO4501 Wrote: Hello,
I have had the head reworked on my 92 tracker. Engine was steaming but no water in oil. Head was pressure tested and milled. After putting it all back together, it ran good but was still steaming. Water in the oil this time. I didn’t check the block very well. It had some low spots that I was able to hone out by hand using a grinding stone. Put it back together the second time with another new gasket and can’t get it started. I was careful to check timing marks and took note of valves on 1 and 4 at tdc.
I have fuel to the throttle body and have spark. I did, however have a wire left that I didn’t remember taking off either time.
Suzuki has many connectors not used, 50 options and only 10 harnesses not 50 harness so missing options are NORMAL. Cruise, AC/. 4door with rear wiper pump option missing.
I was looking at some of the pictures on your website and found what I think is the same wires on slide 5 of the intake manifold slideshow.
The white connector and wires on the lower left of the frame at the firewall. drivers left or facing engine left?
The wires on mine are red and yellow (just a PAIR or 1 wire, red with yellow stripe? , then this is easy, ill look)
I can’t find a wire or socket to plug it into.
These wires come out of the main harness to the back and just below the intake manifold.
Any ideas? Is this keeping it from cranking? Thanks, Greg
back later with me decode colors. on 2 schematics. 8v and 16v.
RE: Wires in engine compartment - fixkick - 08-13-2018
if only you had said injector or injectors, id be on track.
RE: Wires in engine compartment - fixkick - 08-13-2018
The , red-yellow is ECT wire. and is pair. not 1 wire.
again no valve count stated.
with this unplugged, the ECU goes to limphome and floods and sets DTC error for ECT stuck high. (cut wire)
the 8v ect is on usa passenger side called RIGHT side, and is just behind the 1 pin dash temp sensor gauge sensor. and next to IAT sensor seen on my 8v pages.
THe 16v ECT is on the thermostat housing.
the ect has 2 wire, red/yellow and other gray/yellow. (gray/yel is ground to ect)
the 16v ECT is here
http://www.fixkick.com/sensors/thermostat/96-stat-mine1w.jpg
the 8v ect is here
http://www.fixkick.com/TBI-1w.jpg
RE: Wires in engine compartment - fixkick - 08-13-2018
the DIAG jumper in place
key on,
CEL lamp flashes code 14, means ECT wires unplugged. code 12 is good sensors (good means not open not shorted, but never proof of true good)
the DLC plug is 8v or 16v
seen here in front of battery, 4 pin or 16pins with a rubber cap,
http://www.fixkick.com/CEL/DLC/DiagJump.html
RE: Wires in engine compartment - fixkick - 08-13-2018
this slide
?
http://fixkick.com/engine/8v-Show-boat/html/image_6.html
ect is there. just in front of EGR
slide 6
RE: Wires in engine compartment - GFO4501 - 08-13-2018
Thanks for your replies. It is an 8 valve engine with tbi. The wires (2) I was talking about go into a white connector. One is yellow with a purple dot, the other is red with a blue band. The wires I was talking about in your picture was at the firewall near the battery. The picture was in the intake manifold slideshow on your website. The battery is weak and on charge now. The engine will crank but not start. I have not put a timing light on it, but number 1 piston is tdc with the valves closed and rotor button pointing to #1. I am going to try again with a little gas in the throttle body.